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Initiation in Ancient Christianity existed

In modern Christianity a lot of subjects are not spoken about.

Such a subject is initiation.

Nevertheless initiation has played an important role

in Ancient Christianity.

The history of Christianity and the choices made in history

have been forced upon present day believers.

 

Home2b.nl has no intention to hurt anybodies feelings.

We respect modern religion as it is, but we also want to KNOW

what has been hidden in centuries past to influence us.

 

To mention a few subjects:

personal rebirth into a new life;

the existence of Female Divinity;

the use of magic in church;

destruction heretic books and heretic buildings;

 

Robert and Susan have the opinion, that

"heretics" were also normal believers and human beings;

it was absolutely a crime to torture and kill believers called "heretics".

 

More subjects:

who is the "Holy Ghost" and why is the "Holy Ghost" so different;

Paul was an apostle of Ancient Christianity;

who and what was John the Baptist;

 

who and what were the sisters Mary and Martha;

who was Lazarus;

why do some churchfathers from the first centuries write

that Jesus died at high age;

why do the gospels of Matthew, Marc and Luke

 tell us that Jesus was preaching for one year

and John gives us three years of preaching.

 

 

The subject of this webpage is initiation of believers.

 

In the Letter to the Corinthians, chapter one, verses 6-9

is written by Paul:

6

σοφιαν δε λαλουμεν εν τοις τελειοις σοφιαν δε ου του αιωνος τουτου ουδε των αρχοντων του αιωνος τουτου των καταργουμενων

For we speak perfect wisdom of God, and not the wisdom of this age nor of the princes of this age, that come to nought,


7

αλλα λαλουμεν θεου σοφιαν εν μυστηριω την αποκεκρυμμενην ην προωρισεν ο θεος προ των αιωνων εις δοξαν ημων

but we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God predestined before the ages unto our glory,


8

ην ουδεις των αρχοντων του αιωνος τουτου εγνωκεν ει γαρ εγνωσαν ουκ αν τον κυριον της δοξης εσταυρωσαν

which none of the princes of this age knew (for had they known [it], they would never have crucified the Lord of glory).


9

αλλα καθως γεγραπται α οφθαλμος ουκ ειδεν και ους ουκ ηκουσεν και επι καρδιαν ανθρωπου ουκ ανεβη οσα ητοιμασεν ο θεος τοις αγαπωσιν αυτον

But as it is written, That which eye has not seen nor ear heard neither has entered into the heart of man [is] that which God has prepared for those that love him.

 

The apostle Paul is speaking about hidden wisdom,

the wisdom of God being a mystery,

which God will reveal to those who love Him.

 

Because of modern preachind we think that the revelation

of the mysteries will be to us and everybody, because we love Him.

But is this correct?

These words of Paul are about initiation of only a small group of special believers.

 

The same we find in the Gospel of Marc, chapter 4, 11 and 12

where Jesus said:

11   And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know

the mystery of the kingdom of God:

but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

 

12   That seeing they may see, and not perceive;

and hearing they may hear, and not understand;

lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

 

Only a small group of special believers knew more.

 

The important writer Clemens of Alexandria

wrote around the year 200 AD:

"revelation is not for the many,

but for the few who could understand the truth

and were ready to understand.

What is hidden for many,

will be revealed to some."

Stromateis (Patchwork) boek I, chapter 1, 13.

 

In Marcus 16, verse 9 we read

"he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils"

Many scholars are saying that seven devils thrown out of Magdalene Mary

means that Mary Magdalene was seven times initiated.

 

In the Nag Hammadi III, 5, 139 in the "Dialogue of the Savior"

is written:

"Mary Magdalene uttered this as a woman who had understood completely".

 

"A woman who knows All"

 

This means that Mary Magdalene was a completely initiated person.

The Ancient Christians of that time believed that a seven fold initiation

opened the Hodos until coming into the Ogdoade or Paradise.

From there the Hodos went through the Enneade into the Kingdom,

the Pleroma.

 

The so-called "Gospel of Thomas",

an important writing from the Nag Hammadi books,

in Logion 13 says:

Jesus took Thomas and withdrew and told him three things.

When Thomas returned to his companions, they asked him:

"What did Jesus say to you?"

Thomas said to them: "If I tell you one of the things,

which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me."

 

So Thomas got a special initiation, separately from the other disciples.

 

Initiation is related to the Way, the Hodos.

Read about the Hodos on my special page.

The "way" or "Hodos" was the road the soul had to travel

 after separation  of the soul from the body,

which occurs after death.

This very much the same thought as the famous book of John Bunyan.

 

The important question is:

does the New Testament bring us the religion for the many,

or is the New Testament also for the initiated?

 

Some texts in the New Testament could suggest

that some knowledge for the initiated

is also in the text of the New Testament.

But it seems very sure, that the New Testament is only written for

the non-initiated and the initiated for the first degree.

The other knowledge for the higher initiations is not there

in the New Testament.

 

More and more people are feeling, that the power groups

of long lost centuries have erased the extra knowledge

that could be important to us.

 

Once I heard a wise preacher say:

"outside the Bible is nothing that gives us salvation".

This could be true.

Still it does not take away our right to know more

about the truths hidden for us.

Robert has finished a lot of extra research

about the most likely grades of initiation.

Very soon:

The special webpage on the Grades of Initiation.

 

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susan@home2b.nl

robert@home2b.nl

 

 

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